Recap · July 31, 2025 · 30:15
IceBagz: Kanpai Pandas, Crypto Fight Night, and More | TG Podcast
The Signal
IceBagz explains how Kanpai Pandas became the first piece of a broader MMA, media and betting business. The through-line is a flywheel: use fight content and a new league to bring audiences into Strike, while directing portions of future betting revenue back into the token and the Panda collection.
Key Takeaways
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PANDAS STARTED IN A BEAR MARKET
IceBagz says Kanpai Pandas took seven months to mint when buyers did not want NFTs, and that he personally covered roughly $500,000–$600,000 of the mint costs.
- 02
MEDIA IS THE DISTRIBUTION LAYER
His three MMA shows, with Mike Perry, Yoel Romero and Renato Moicano, generated 51 million monthly views across English, Spanish and Portuguese audiences, he says.
- 03
STRIKE CONNECTS THE PIECES
Fifteen percent of Strike’s supply is being distributed to Panda holders over two years; the proposed consumer app is intended to introduce viewers to the wider ecosystem.
- 04
REVENUE IS THE NFT TEST
He argues that projects need a real revenue source, visibility, or a powerful market narrative to survive a slowdown; royalties and another NFT drop are not enough.
- 05
DIRTY BOXING IS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT
The league uses an 18-by-8 ring, four-ounce gloves and elbows, seeking a more watchable, striker-focused alternative to bare-knuckle competition.
On the Record
“It took us like seven months to mint out Pandas. We were the first ones to work with LayerZero and do a true paid omnichain mint.”
“You have the media company up top, you have the fight league, you have the betting app, and you have Pandas kind of in the middle.”
“If you can't build something that has either a revenue source or high visibility or some kind of crazy meta, the NFT project's dead.”
“We put four-ounce gloves on them, and then we added in elbows and other stuff. It creates exciting fights. They're fast-paced.”
The Breakdown
From a slow Panda mint to fight media
IceBagz starts with Kanpai Pandas, which he says took seven months to sell out during a market where nobody wanted to touch NFTs. He says the launch used a paid omnichain mint with LayerZero and required roughly $500,000–$600,000 from his own pocket. Over three years, that NFT project became the base from which he moved into MMA.
Three shows, three languages
The first MMA expansion was a media company. IceBagz says its English show with Mike Perry ranks fourth among English MMA podcasts, while Yoel Romero fronts the Spanish show and Renato Moicano the Portuguese one. Together, he says, the three shows reached 51 million views in the preceding month, after roughly 42 million the month before.
Pandas inside the Strike flywheel
He describes Pandas as the center of a system with media above it, Dirty Boxing Championship beside it and a betting app alongside it. Panda holders receive 15% of Strike’s supply linearly over two years rather than through a single airdrop. The planned Dirty Boxing app would reward engagement with small Strike allocations and introduce users to the broader product set.
Planned buybacks from betting revenue
The value proposition, in his framing, comes from the casino and sportsbook rather than just app engagement. He says 17% of profits would go to Strike buybacks and burns, and 3% would buy Pandas on the market and lock them for five years. The business is still early: he says the fight league has made zero so far because building it has been a cost.
What survived the NFT downturn
Asked why formerly hot collections died, IceBagz says many founders discovered they lacked a business model after a successful mint. He does not blame everyone who left, but says buyers should distinguish projects that continued building from ones claiming to have done so later. His own conclusion is that an NFT needs revenue, visibility or a durable market narrative when conditions cool.
A narrower lane than the UFC
Dirty Boxing is not intended to compete directly with the UFC, he says. Its 18-by-8 ring, four-ounce gloves and elbows are designed for skilled strikers, while avoiding the visual severity that he thinks limits bare-knuckle’s mainstream scale. He cites a roughly 60% knockout rate versus the UFC’s twenty-something percentage as evidence that the format produces quick, watchable fights.
The next products
IceBagz closes by pointing to a prospective U.S. sports-betting and casino product and Telegram games using IP the group owns. Each, he says, is meant to make Strike useful and deflationary through burns. His confidence in Pandas also rests on an expected NFT bull run, though he stresses that only a small group of projects has built enough to benefit from it. He points to an $8.5 million Punk sweep as a more meaningful signal than a single expensive Ape sale, because it represented a buyer accumulating a whole collection.
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