Recap · July 31, 2025 · 50:59
DeeZe: NFT's Comeback in 2025, What to Hold, OG Punk Lore and More | TG Podcast
The Signal
DeeZe maps the NFT recovery through CryptoPunks, disciplined sizing and the people who have spent years studying the market. He expects older cultural assets and genuinely new formats to benefit, not a repeat of 2021's indiscriminate mint mania.
Key Takeaways
- 01
CULTURE IS AN EDGE
DeeZe treats familiarity with a collection's history, holders and aesthetics as useful information rather than trivia.
- 02
SIZE HAS TO SCALE
He says a $25,000 ceiling for highly speculative coins is relative to portfolio size; at a $250,000 market cap he might use only five SOL.
- 03
PUNKS HAVE STRUCTURE
Loans, sweeps, rare-trait pricing and specialist brokers make high-end Punks a distinct market, not simply a floor-price trade.
- 04
2021 IS NOT THE BASE CASE
He can imagine Punks revisiting highs if ETH does, but expects older assets and genuinely novel work to draw capital.
- 05
PROCESS BEATS SCROLLING
Without a technical, founder or information advantage, he recommends a defined process and stronger assets instead of random tips.
On the Record
“I think if Ethereum makes a new all-time high, Punks probably do too.”
“I don't think we're going to see that stupid mint new stuff. I think it's going to be more of the older stuff or novel new stuff.”
“You can't just be scrolling the timeline and just praying that a nut falls out of a tree into your lap because that probably isn't the best way to go about it.”
The Breakdown
A market built around specialists
Threadguy introduces DeeZe as an NFT and CryptoPunks bull who spends more than twelve hours a day online. DeeZe frames the market as one where historically important assets trade differently from the rest. Autoglyphs, Rocks and other high-end pieces appear in lending venues such as Gondi, while the owners and brokers around them often know each item unusually well.
Following the people with momentum
The pair discuss the recurring feeling that certain traders or communities are handed a profitable move. DeeZe cites Project 89 and activity around Bonk as examples of markets where attention can compound quickly. His point is not that every trend should be copied blindly, but that visible, informed participants can help reveal where the market is concentrating.
A visual approach to risk
DeeZe describes a deliberately simple model for charts: imagine where a credible green or red dot would belong. A parabolic chart makes a near-term red dot more plausible; a consolidation that has stopped making new lows looks more constructive. He says this framing has improved his timing, even though it is not a substitute for knowing what he owns.
The listed Punk
When Threadguy asks why he listed a Punk he did not really want to sell, DeeZe says he wanted 44 ETH while the floor was around 40. That exchange becomes a reminder that Punks are not interchangeable floor assets. Certain traits and aesthetically desirable mid-tier pieces can move independently, especially when large buyers or specialist desks are active.
Lessons from Fractional
DeeZe revisits working at Fractional during the July 2021 Punk sweep, when a buyer spent more than $10 million in one block. The resulting vault turned a group of Punks into ERC-20 ownership claims. He also notes the scale of professional activity now: one major seller wallet had moved 752 Punks, another 913, evidence of years of continuous dealing rather than casual collecting.
What a comeback may look like
The conversation turns to whether NFT prices and euphoria can return to 2021 levels. DeeZe says Punks could revisit their dollar high if Ethereum reaches a new high, roughly $400,000–$500,000 in their discussion. He is less convinced that the same broad frenzy returns. He expects older cultural assets, or formats that genuinely do something new, to get the attention instead.
Opportunity and a boring allocation
For an average participant without coding, founder or information advantages, DeeZe says opportunity depends on knowing what one is actually good at and building a process around it. Strong coins can still offer five-to-ten-fold gains without needing to be a hundred-bagger. Away from crypto, he says he puts a portion of post-tax quarterly profits into the S&P 500, a deliberately boring choice shaped by marriage and plans for a family. He says he blew himself up trading options on Reddit in 2018, which makes the quieter allocation feel more appropriate now.
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