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Recap · August 4, 2025 · 1:28:13

I Met The Founder of Jupiter Exchange... (weremeow)

The Signal

weremeow, the founder of Jupiter Exchange, drops into Threadguy's stream for a long conversation about what crypto is becoming when token creation, distribution, and attention are nearly free. He is not trying to argue that the trenches disappear: his view is that infinite low-effort coins are now structural, while the projects and people that endure will have credibility, a real base, and something their communities recognize as home. Along the way, the two compare Jupiter's early focus with Hyperliquid, Threadguy's Ape-era break, crypto's uneasy relationship with outside celebrities, and why human networks still matter in an AI-heavy future.

Key Takeaways

  • 01

    Zero-cost issuance changes the game

    weremeow argues that token launches, bot farms, and the surrounding operational stack are getting cheap enough to become routine. In his framing, that means infinite tokens with minimal effort are not a temporary deviation; the separating variable becomes whether a creator understands the audience and has earned credibility.

  • 02

    A product needs a promise

    For Jupiter's first two years, weremeow says the team kept returning to one promise: best price, best selection, and best reliability. He contrasts that kind of focus with builders who invest heavily in technology but miss that a token also has to stand for something in a memetic market.

  • 03

    Followers are not believers

    The conversation keeps coming back to a base of people who know the work and want the person or project to win. Threadguy's account of Jack Butcher's open-edition fundraiser becomes the concrete version: a community recognized his situation and raised roughly $200,000 in ETH when he was broke in Los Angeles.

  • 04

    Crypto has to carry its own culture

    Threadguy thinks mass adoption is more durable when a crypto-native person or product becomes huge, rather than when an existing celebrity briefly adopts crypto. weremeow agrees with the underlying distinction: onchain assets are usable in a way assets sitting only on centralized exchanges are not.

  • 05

    The closing case for human networks

    Asked how viewers should make it, weremeow does not offer a trade. He says to build a real network, work until people can see what you are about, take the right shots without taking the ones that can kill you, and stay humble when a breakout arrives.

On the Record

You have to be comfortable with yourself.

It's the coolest part of the internet.

It doesn't matter if it's good or bad. It just is.

You need a network of people who know you and believe in you.

The Breakdown

Bad vibes, then a serious conversation

weremeow arrives saying he woke up anxious, with crashes and security worries on his mind, but quickly says the room feels different. His opening complaint is that crypto has become transactional: people arrive with a deal, a pitch, or an ask. He and Threadguy instead linger on the value of real communities and conversations where nobody is immediately trying to extract something.

Why he left the Ethereum circle

Looking back to 2019–20, weremeow says he stepped away from the Ethereum world partly because he did not buy the culture around L2 composability. He could not see a technical or economic reason all the chains would collaborate, and he did not accept the idea that users would simply tolerate high gas fees. He calls himself a multichain maximalist and compares treating EVM as the only viable stack to deciding no new programming languages should exist because JavaScript is popular.

From LFG to infinite tokens

The pair coin a running metric, FG, for how much effort or care a launch receives. weremeow says Jupiter's LFG launchpad tried to maximize that effort through community calls and screening, even though some of the launches did not perform and Jupiter took criticism for them. In the new environment, he says, deploying and washing a token can cost so little that production tends toward infinity; that does not make every launch good or bad, it makes the condition permanent.

The base before the breakout

Threadguy asks how someone begins at zero followers. Both describe repetition before anyone is watching: Threadguy and a co-host did Spaces every day to nobody, and weremeow says Jupiter also ground for years with no reward. Their shared model is a base plus a breakout moment — the base is the fuel, but people still have to take the opportunities that arrive.

Ape money, and the community behind it

Threadguy places his own first sense of belonging around the Ape community. After running for an Ape DAO council, reaching the final voting stage, losing, and losing a $20,000-a-month job, he says Jack Butcher made a Threadguy Opepen open edition without telling him. The community minted about $200,000 worth, giving him rent money and room to make plays; for Threadguy, it was the moment the culture stopped being abstract.

Crypto natives, not borrowed fame

Threadguy argues that crypto reaches a larger public when someone born in crypto becomes as large as Dave Portnoy, not when an already-famous person adopts it and brings it down from above. weremeow adds that an asset held and used onchain through products such as Jupiter or Phantom is different from one that only trades on a centralized exchange. They also agree that crypto's hunger for celebrity attention sits awkwardly beside its protectiveness of its own context and status markers.

Welcome home, then do the work

weremeow's optimistic case is not that everything becomes lasting; it is that people still want belonging, community, freedom, and symbols. He traces Jupiter's idea of being a home to Burning Man, where people go out into a chaotic world and return to a camp that says welcome home. He applies the same frame to the stream, then closes with three practical points: get comfortable with the work, take the right shots, and recognize a breakout without getting cocky — because crypto, he says, has a way of humbling people.

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